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Now, I'm not well versed in the technical side of hosting web pages and what not, but I have an idea. Quick got to wikipedia.org! What do you see? Now go to uncyclopedia.org. Its diffrent right? Well I think that should change. I have here (look left) a diagram, crudely put together, of how I envision http://uncyclopedia.org looking. --Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 18:25, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Vote and disscus below:

yes yes yes this was sporked from wikipedia, the numbers and italics are wrong. Sosumi.
  • I'm looking left and see nothing. Oh! There it is on the right! I'm all for mirroring Wikipedia in every way, so I'm naturally for this, though I'm not sure I would want it to be divided by languages exactly... I'm not sure. I like the idea of mirroring Wikipedia, though.--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 18:29, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • We could set it up with a cookie so that a first time visitor sees your new page, whilst a regular visitor is directed to the main page......that way we won't all grow to hate it :) -- Sir Mhaille Icons-flag-gb.png (talk to me)
  • I am against making that the front page of the uncycopedia; Since we have far less content and far less traffic than Wikipedia, it's best for us to have the main page have a lot of actual content (like it does now). Repeated visitors would be discouraged by having to click on a link to go to the "real" front page instead of seeing it (and the "article of the day" and the latest UnNews etc.) immediately. --Composure1 19:12, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, yes. The en.uncyclopedia.org was what I was getting at, just didn't want to lose people with fancy Wikipedia metaphors and what not. So yah, still support my idea, with the inclusion of what Tompkins said. We could all change our homepage/bookmark to en.uncyclopedia.org, eh? --Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 19:54, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Why not put this on Babel:Main_Page and leave the existing main page as-is? Or put this on .info? --Carlb 20:11, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes good idea, I've had this in the back of my mind for a while. While we're on the topic; I'd like it if the subdomain UnNews.uncyclopedia.org was setup... a simple redirect would do the trick; as would unmeta.uncyclopedia.org :) --Olipro Icons-flag-gb.png Co-Anc (Harass) 21:31, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I know we can easily redirect uncyclopedia.info subdomains (such as http://news.uncyclopedia.info http://main.uncyclopedia.info http://meta.uncyclopedia.info ...) indivdually, but for .org it would require Wikia making the changes for us. The WP-style mainscreen as list of languages is something used by other Wikia projects, dunno about the redirects. --Carlb 01:16, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
    • How about buying uncyclomedia.org? - User:Guest/sig 18:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
  • No thanks, since it involves more work.... even with the cookie. --OsirisX 04:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Just a redirect... don't need to actually fully link it into UnNews.uncyclopedia.org... then, no work! --Olipro Icons-flag-gb.png Co-Anc (Harass) 18:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Aw, please no. That's just annoying on WP, and none of our foreign launguage version have much content. And the only way to prevent me from wasting time and mouse clicks upon visiting the site would be moving things to en.uncyclopedia.org, and that'll kill a LOT of "external" links throughout the wiki. --User:Nintendorulez 16:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I like it. But, honestly, that's only couse I'm a bureau in a foreign uncy. And Nin: French, German and Polish uncys do have respectable amount of content. Spanish one is till small but it's growing fast. --Rataube 17:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


  • Well maybe we should try it on a trial basis, placing something like what is pictured above on the mainpage (with functional links and what not), and just use Maine Page for the time being, we can have a banner (like the current PLS one) telling people to vote on the new mainpage. Voting would last a predetermined amount of time, and then we act accordingly. --Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 17:08, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, that's probably better. And people have to get used to clicking to the Maine Page today, why not for a few more? ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 17:16, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
  • So that's why there are no lobsters and no Stephen King horrors on the Maine Page? --Carlb 02:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • I really think it would be to our benefit to highlight the high quality of our pages in other languages. If everyone posting here hasn't looked at them yet, I encourage you to go look now. We really SHOULD make our foreign language stuff more visible, IMHO.--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 03:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • If people really want to do it, let's go ahead and give it a trial run, and have a link directly on the portal asking for opinions. Carlb - you can use a no-text version of this Sophia for the portal if you need a non-blurry larger potato. —rc (t) 07:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
    • So... should we vote or is somebody going to scan through this and see what the general consenus is? ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 15:21, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Uncyc Being a parody that is a great idea, but with all the hammering on being funny and what not The concept itself may need some better/more ideas. There is a ton of fun stuff you can do apart from planting the potato on it. How about for starters not mentioning false figures for articles per language but do some fun stuff with it, like 12300 wooden-shoe articles for dutch language , -4 bradwursten-articles for german and 1 smelly cheese article for the french. Now just include some fake or ancient languages ( aztec, klinon, sanscrit or whatever ) and you have yourself a portalpage. If this is the case then, if you scroll down you can see, that im all for it . -- Vosnul 19:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Thinking more along these lines. - Vosnul 20:19, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
    Make it more idiotic and bam.. Gold. or .. at least nickle.
    ..

VOTE and/or DIE!

Just like Wikipedia

Score: 6
  • FOR!--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 17:15, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Yeah, whatever. ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 17:26, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood. ~Sir Rangeley Icons-flag-us.png GUN WotM UotM EGA +S (talk) 22:20, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For Spalka even helped me make something better then the existig Bable:Main Page crap. This could be implimented as soon as a concensus is formed. (Although Spla seems to think it still needs work). --Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 21:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment You idiot most of the links on the bottom link to wikipedia sites! --Brigadier General Sir Zombiebaron 21:36, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment: I prefer the Babel:Main Page, it tells you each foeign uncy's name and its number of articles.--Rataube 00:01, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment I love Rataube's!--<<Bradmonogram.png>> 02:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
It's Carlb's.--Rataube 00:28, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For - Surreal Hamster 20:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • For --Sir gwax (talk) Signuke.gif 14:43, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Okay I just resently made a mistake and typed in www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main Page, which you would think would be a broken link right? cause wikipedia.org is not a real wiki. However it did work, and in fact linked me to the en.wikipedia Main Page. I gather (basiclly I hope) that this is not to hard, and if it isn't then BAM we just do that. No broken links from outside, and we can all just change our homepage to include an en. can't we? --ZB 00:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment I was thinking that we should be able to do that, I thought I posted it somewhere on this page, but I guess I didn't, oh well, I do like the idea. - Surreal Hamster 19:51, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Against i hate the wikipedia portal, its another bloody page to load through and click again. --Atomsk.gif Kaizer the Bjorn takkun Nya? (nya nya) (1961 model!) Check out T61! 13:54, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

setup with cookie

Score: 6
  • For.--Rataube 17:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For. Mmm... cookies --Composure1 17:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
  • Ditto. I want to copy Wikipedia, but this would be annoying. --User:Nintendorulez 20:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • For. I like the idea, but since "proper" English Un isn't en.uncyclopedia.org (like how "proper" English 'Pedia is en dot), I think cookieizing it is the best idea. And that would get godawfully annoying anyway. --CaptainSpam MUN PUTPBAA 21:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Very four. Like it, but it's kinda annoying. --Clorox Yes, I'm American. No, I don't like George W. Bush. Please don't shoot. MUN ONS (diskussion) ☃ 20:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

keep as is

Score: 6
  • Ding. Babel:Main Page is good, but it shouldn't replace our homepage... at least, not without a lot more jokes. --Algorithm (talk) 11:01, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For' Given the semi-indpendance of the uncyclopedias (when compared with the variouse wikipedias) this seems a bit OTT (AFAIK the German one even has a few pages in english!!)--The Right Honourable Maj Sir Elvis UmP KUN FIC MDA VFH Bur. CM and bars UGM F@H (Petition) 13:53, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For. To be honest, I probably wouldn't care either way (I have en.wp bookmarked, not the front page of WP). But we just don't have enough languages to make it worth doing. —Hinoa KUN (talk) 16:30, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
  • For all those other peoples should just speak Engrish --Nerd42Talk 17:02, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Why? The Americans haven't spoken it in years. --Carlb 17:08, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Haven't spoken Engrish either ? Oh man, first we stop speaking English and now we can't even speak Engrish! WHERE IS THIS COUNTRY GOING !? LOL --Nerd42Talk 16:20, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • For. It's better how it is now. Why doesn't everyne else just learn English. Universal language people! --Random joe 09:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep standard It's just one joke that isn't worth it --Chronarion 20:22, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
  • For. That will just waste my time. If you waste my time, I will waste you.--SUPER COOL QUOTE BY: Yugoslavian F 20:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Other

  • Wait for the other uncyc language sisters to get XX.uncyclopedia.org domains (which will happen eventually, I am told). --Splaka 04:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
No, that wont happen, different uncys actually have different names like eincyclopedia, nonsensopedia, inciclopedia and such.--Rataube 07:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
They can keep their local titles/names, and whatever.wikia.com domains as well, doesn't preclude having XX.uncyclopedia.org domains. --Splaka 07:15, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
As the Latin Wikipedia is la.wikipedia.org, yet they call it 'Vicipaedia', not 'Wikipedia' (even though they sound the same}. ~ Ghelæ talkcontribs 15:30, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
It's more than just differences in names; the German and Finland uncyclopædias are hosted as external sites. --Carlb 16:28, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
As far as I know there are many WPs spelled differently in different languages, but they are all called and pronounced Wikipedia.--Rataube 02:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
That's not exactly the case, while they are similar usually, they are rarely the same, for instance with "Vicipaedia" (Latin Wikipedia) the "V" is pronounced like a "W" but the "ae" diphthong is pronounced like a long "I", or in the case of "Vikipedio" (Esperanto Wikipedia) the "V" is pronounced like a "V", both the "I"s, and the "E" is short. The pronunciation is similar, but not exactly the same, I think I like the XX.uncyclopedia.org format, for the simple reason that it will help with multilingual coordination, mainly the little "in other languages..." box at the side of the screen, minor, but important. - Surreal Hamster 01:42, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I doubt it would help in building the "in other languages..." box; the individual base URLs are just pulled from a database table. What we need to fix that box is this extension, which would let us edit/update the interwiki table as new wikis are created. --Carlb 06:05, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Ask if www.uncyclopedia.org could be pointed to the babble Babel page while leaving just-plain uncyclopedia.org as-is? --Carlb 14:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
  • OK seriously move the entire site to en.uncyclopedia.org, eliminate the "/wiki/" if possible and have the Babel crap on plai old uncyclopedia.org. sigh --Nerd42Talk 17:05, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Given the problems we are having with google it realy isn't a good idea to go breaking all the external links to uncyclopedia!!--The Right Honourable Maj Sir Elvis UmP KUN FIC MDA VFH Bur. CM and bars UGM F@H (Petition) 15:42, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
NO no no, everything in the "/wiki/" folder could redirect to the same thing, only with "/". It would take some creative messing about with whatever web server program we/you are using but it's doable right ? shorter URL = better. --Nerd42Talk 16:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Any reason to do that? The page displayed if they type http://uncyclopedia.org (with no page name after it) can be selected in .htaccess using the web server's DirectoryIndex command. It could point anywhere on the site, without moving /wiki/ or anything else, AFAIK. It would still require that Wikia staff (ie: someone with access to the filesystem, not one of our admins) make the change, but would be much less drastic than a 301 redirect on every page in /wiki/ --Carlb19:08, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I tried dumping a copy of this on http://uncyclopedia.info - not bad, but for one minor detail: the "search" infobox only searches whichever wiki you're on (so a box on uncyclopedia.info isn't going to find a page on ikkepedia.net, wikia, or even on a subdomain of the .info site itself). This means the search normally will find nothing. Oh well, at least it looks official. --Carlb 19:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
I tried searching for "Uncyclopedia" on Gargle... looks like, because uncyclopedia.info is an external site, it isn't being penalised as heavily as uncyclopedia.org? It's still pagerank zero, but at least that gets us on the first page of results for "Uncyclopedia" instead of the fifth page. Evidently, any other search engine would find .org first, as it should. Ouch! --Carlb 18:20, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
  • If it's maxed out on funny, yes,. great idea. FOR . -- Vosnul 19:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
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